Letter to the Editor: Our job is your health

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As medical professionals, our job is your health.

The United States is in the midst of a great challenge. We are dismayed to see how few people mask up in this area, and how difficult it is for retailers and other business owners to enforce this. Protecting each other in stores and other indoor venues is crucial to the public welfare.

We ask the public to pull together and mask up.

We ask all retailers and business owners to offer alternatives like curbside pickup, to the unmasked.

We can beat this. But we need all hands on deck.

We suggest no shoes no shirt no masks no service.

Sincerely,

Jean Antonucci MD
Emily Jacobs DO

Farmington

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  1. Laughable
    July 30, 2020 • 5:55 pm
    Pure,

    What is your obsession with Bill Nye? He has nothing to do with the studies that have been released.

    A quick search of “mask effectiveness study” would be a good place to start if you are really interested in educating yourself, providing you don’t simply want to stir the pot by denying what the vast majority of health experts are saying.

    I will ask a simple question: What do you have to lose by wearing a mask? Best case it slow’s down the spread of the virus, worse case you are in the same place as not wearing one. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by refusing to wear a mask other than spreading the virus and causing more economic struggles. Not a great end game.

    Have you read the “mask effectiveness study”? I have and I will again say to you- there is no proof whatsoever that a mask does anything for preventing virus transmission (other than become political tool and make you feel good apparently).

    Im not trying to make you not wear a mask therefore I have nothing to prove, however if you want to force others to do this you better make sure you can prove what your saying.

    As to your question- If you have to ask than im afraid I would just waste a lot of time explaining what we have to lose by allowing politicians and mob rule dictate us wearing a napkin on our face- Just so no one has to admit that destroying an economy and the death that will follow that was a huge mistake.

    Scott Erb
    July 30, 2020 • 7:26 pm
    Pure – your disregard of science and false belief that it’s an attack on freedom to have to wear a mask shows that you don’t care about your community, and don’t mind the 150,000 dead – likely to reach as much as the Spanish flu – over 675,000 dead – if people like you keep ignoring reality. Herman Cain went to Trump’s Tulsa rally without a mask and now he’s dead of COVID. And schools have spread COVID, a claim they don’t is simply wrong. Sigh. So much ignorance, all just to avoid the inconvenience of caring for the community and protecting lives. Ignorance.

    Did I insinuate it was an attack on freedom? I think I simply asked for proof that it works, we have been dealing with viruses for a long time…If this was effective as a strategy then there should be at least a few studies done on effectiveness right?

    So my demanding proof before doing what people say is my not caring about my community…wow quite a stretch Scott, but does go inline with people whom wear them feeling as there saving millions of lives, even though science says they dont help.

    Heros each and every one of you!

    By the way, why dont you dig into states numbers on deaths and realize that 2/3rds? of those deaths are from 3 states and that deaths began to flat line long before you wanted a mask mandate. Ahh…Nevermind that might make you feel less heroic.

    Private Planet
    July 31, 2020 • 6:23 am
    I wear a mask because I’m erring on the side of caution.
    I hate the damn thing and am NOT convinced we’re doing the right thing but, (as I said) I’m erring on the side of caution.
    I would encourage everyone to do the same.

    What I am convinced of is this is political by many.
    Usually the ones who feel the need to name call and berate people who disagree with them.
    I’ve read comments from these same name callers in the past on here that “you name call when you are a “little man” or you dont have a valid argument”.
    Is this true or not?

    Care about others.

    Everything Is Beautiful.

    Understood but Do realize two things, First if you stop driving you have a greater chance of saving or not killing someone than you do by wearing a mask. Second- Where does this end? When were told no one else will get sick? Never?

  2. Billyjoebob, I cant wait to hear Scott Erb response to not open schools. I agree wholeheartedly that this is the time to restructure the entire school system that has gone rogue with 1 million dollars a year or more in increases.

  3. Pure,

    If the words of experts are not enough to sway you, nothing I can say will either. I am thankful we have someone so well educated in our local community to tell us that all the trained medical professionals are wrong about mask effectiveness.

    The fact that you are so afraid of wearing a mask because professionals and politicians alike agree on there effectiveness and think it is some big social control experiment speaks volumes about your state of mind and ability to make logical judgment calls. Good luck with that.

  4. Laughable
    July 31, 2020 • 11:26 am

    Took a lot of words to say you have no proof of effectiveness and will gladly be a pawn in any farce that can be imagined. Good luck with that, check out the history channel for a sneak peek of how this stuff ends.

  5. Well, Pure, THANK YOU for showing how informed you are. You said 2/3 of the deaths are from three states. That shows your level of knowledge, you believe that. We have right now 152,074 deaths. Two thirds of that would be just over 100,000 – we can round it out to that. Let’s go through the states and their death totals. New York is most with 32,683, New Years, 15,809, then California, 9,032. Now that’s a total of 57,524. Not to 2/3 yet! Next is Mass with 8580, Illinois with 7670, then 7194. Six states = 80,968. Not to 2/3 yet. OK, to continue, Florida 6486, Michigan 6443, Texas 6442. Nine states with 100,339. That’s about 2/3. You say deaths have flat lined. They flat lined a few weeks ago, but have been rising since, with California, Texas and Florida setting records. Clearly, you do not know what’s going on. Maybe you hear some pundit with propaganda and believe it, but you are not keeping up with the data! That says a lot about how seriously one should take your argument.

    And let’s see, experts the world over say masks help. Even Dr. Brix has cited studies that they can not only prevent you from spreading it, but it can protect you. Global experts all agree, even the President said so. But some how, you think that’s not enough. You want “proof” to whatever bizarre level of satisfaction you need. That is absurd on its face. Seriously, Pure, you need to look into this more – your pre-conceived notions are clearly false.

  6. Actually I think Private Planet has the right attitude here. Be skeptical. But err on the side of caution. Masks probably aren’t needed outdoors – unless you’re in a crowd (I’d avoid things like crowded beaches, protests, or political rallies). Indoors shopping wear them, other indoor situations use common sense based on the number of people and level of social distancing. Common sense. I wouldn’t isolate kids from other kids, but avoid large numbers. It’s a balance of various concerns. And one reason I wear mine is to show respect for essential workers, many of whom are low paid and high risk. If it reduce their stress to see people wearing masks (which they usually have to do for hours on end), then that’s a good thing.

  7. Scott Erb
    July 31, 2020 • 1:32 pm
    Well, Pure, THANK YOU for showing how informed you are. You said 2/3 of the deaths are from three states. That shows your level of knowledge, you believe that. We have right now 152,074 deaths. Two thirds of that would be just over 100,000 – we can round it out to that. Let’s go through the states and their death totals. New York is most with 32,683, New Years, 15,809, then California, 9,032. Now that’s a total of 57,524. Not to 2/3 yet! Next is Mass with 8580, Illinois with 7670, then 7194. Six states = 80,968. Not to 2/3 yet. OK, to continue, Florida 6486, Michigan 6443, Texas 6442. Nine states with 100,339. That’s about 2/3. You say deaths have flat lined. They flat lined a few weeks ago, but have been rising since, with California, Texas and Florida setting records. Clearly, you do not know what’s going on. Maybe you hear some pundit with propaganda and believe it, but you are not keeping up with the data! That says a lot about how seriously one should take your argument.

    And let’s see, experts the world over say masks help. Even Dr. Brix has cited studies that they can not only prevent you from spreading it, but it can protect you. Global experts all agree, even the President said so. But some how, you think that’s not enough. You want “proof” to whatever bizarre level of satisfaction you need. That is absurd on its face. Seriously, Pure, you need to look into this more – your pre-conceived notions are clearly false.

    Scott, the ? After 2/3rds was meant to signify that it was an approximation done from top of my head, I will try to clearly spell it out for you next time. I would also like you to realize the numbers were talking include death WITH Covid as well as cases where Covid was actual cause.

    The only proof I have asked for and you find bizarre is proof that in all the time we have dealt with viruses that Masks help someone (general public) not get sick or prevent the spread of illness, that’s the bizarre proof you find so troubling.

    Would you happen to READ any of these cited studies? Because none of them-that would be zero say what you either think they say or pretend that they say or wish they said.

  8. Pure,

    You might want to loosen your tin foil hat, you are starting to sound just as bad as Awww with your belief in conspiracy theory’s.

    Coincidentally thanks for being a perfect example of being a pawn in a farce. There is no better example than being foolish enough to fall for conspiracy theory’s instead of listening to educated and trained individuals who have made the study of these things their life’s work.

    See you on the next article!

  9. You are wrong if you think the deaths are not all COVID. Indeed, statistically other causes are causing more death than usual, so most experts are convinced we are undercounting COVID deaths, maybe by 30,000. Trying to pretend the number is not real is lame.

    As for the 2/3. I know why you said that. At one point that was a right wing talking about, the more cases don’t matter, deaths were focused. But now every day it’ll take more states to reach 2/3 because the virus is spreading and the deaths are increasing. 1400 dead yesterday, far more than the 300 – 400 in early June. That is evidence how the disease is spreading. The original three states that once made 2/3 of the deaths are every day a decreasing share as they are not experiencing many deaths at all, while the south and west is now where the virus is most virulent. The estimate now is for about 230,000 dead by November.

    If you want to ignore all the evidence and recommendations about masks, then you can. You must know you are in a minority on this. And you presumably are a smart enough person to know that you (like me) are fallible. Each of us could be wrong, each of us could be right. In a case like this, even if I totally thought masks were useless, I’d say “well, globally so many experts say it’ll help. Gee, as a fallible human they might tbe right, I might be wrong. I’ll wear one in stores and in public just in case.” I’d also note that it would be a courteous thing to do since many essential workers are also high risk. I actually have read quite a bit about the studies on masks, and while they aren’t perfect, they do make it less likely you’ll transmit the virus (many will be stopped or slowed) . After all, would all these experts world wide recommend it if there were no evidence? They’re not dumb, they wouldn’t want people to mask for no reason. But sure, perhaps the experts are wrong and you’re right. But you’re fallible and perhaps you’re wrong. At least take that into account. It’s not much effort (I have masks with my favorite sports teams so they’re fun to wear).

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