Letter to the Editor: The dark irony of falling life expectancy numbers

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What a dark irony that President Trump is presiding over the Russification of America.The last laugh for his friend Putin. Russia is alone among the European countries with a falling life expectancy. Guess what, for the first time in generations, our life expectancy is falling here, too.

Despite his boasts about jobs and the economy, under his watch we have lapsed to second rate status in just about every measure. We cannot take care of our poor, our hungry, our homeless, and our sick. We cannot guarantee protective equipment to our health care workers. NY had to get ventilators from China, and we are learning to sew the face masks we need. The states have been put on notice that they are on their own since, according to Jared Kushner, the national strategic stockpile of medical supplies is not for them. Worst of all we cannot even articulate a national strategy for combating COVID 19. What is a government if not to keep us safe and steer us through national emergency?

The president takes credit for everything but isn’t responsible for anything. Outside of Mar a Lago and the White house, we are all on our own. Make America great again, Indeed!

Steve Bien, MD
Jay

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  1. Russia life expectancy in 1994 – 64.3 years
    Russia life expectancy in 2010 – 68.7 years
    Russia life expectancy in 2019 – 73.3 years

    Russia’s life expectancy may be lower than most other European countries, but it is certainly not falling as you suggested.

  2. Sorry you see it that way Steve. Lumping all of America’s faults. I get it. I am sure that it ALL started with Him. What do you Buy? Is it the cheapest you can find? Why do we have to get our medical equipment from China? Where does all our medication come from? And why is it so? Bottom dollar. From our pocket to Corporate America’s. Blame goes in all directions; Yea some can be directed at him, not all. Health care buddy. The need. If congress had to pay into a system that you and I do….do you think there would be a health care crisis today? Why should it be a campaign theme? Lots of things we take for granted are surfacing now..We should be pestering our elected officials to look deeper into our dependance on China. Think that issue started years ago with the hope of transformation..worked just not as policies expected.

  3. Yesterday it was reported in the news that there were Multiple Casualities at the Jay Mill explosion.
    Shocking and,,, Fake News!

    More than half of the dribble this guy repeats in this letter is,,Fake News!
    As for the liberal Narrative he spins ,, I’ll give it 90% Fake News. And boring already.

    I’m sick of being Lied To.
    Aren’t You?

    Weed out these Chicken Littles running around with their “The Sky Is Falling” and “it’s the evil orange ones fault” narrative.
    Even a chicken knows better than to believe all this “spin”.

    The Chicken Littles have proven themselves to be less than accurate in their words.
    Fake News,,
    I just checked and it’s still up there.

  4. Dr Bien, I’ve worked in hospitals for most of my adult life, some Drs think that because they went to medical school they are some of the smartest people in the world and that may be so. You sir are not one of them as shown above. In addition the treatment of nurses by some Drs is appalling and despicable. Nurses are and always will be the backbone of any health organization , If you want to discuss this I’ll be in my office at 10:00 am but please arrive 30 minutes early just because I’m better than you.

  5. Thanks to all the above commentators for correcting and making more clear why things are the way they are now. Some people will believe words when signed by an M.D. I find more truths many times from those without as much education….especially COMMON SENSE stuff! Keep an eye on these guys and please continue with “the other side of the story.”

  6. Non-fake news is readily available – just stop watching the Fox News bits with Hannity and his ilk.

  7. Yesterday (4/16) at 6:30pm I watched the ABC Evening News. Amid the usual gloom and doom, they reported in funereal tones that the funds were already gone, the money in the $2T relief bill for helping businesses meet payroll and other expenses. End of report. And true, as far as it goes.

    They left out the detail that Congressional Democrats are blocking a 2nd bill that replenishes the funds. Blocking it to ensure their pet special interest groups get money, just as they accomplished in the 1st bill.

    This is the most insidious form of “fake news” – deliberately omitting salient information. And the most prevalent. Far worse than silly lies like: THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!

    Marie’s solution is to shut down FNC, leaving (presumably) just those organizations that always tell the truth. Just not the whole truth. See above.

    Nothing but the truth. Or, to please Dr. Steve, in Russian it’s “pravda”.

  8. Marie E….I don’t think Fox News was the one reporting Multiple Causalities

  9. Doctors and lawyers have the people in this country so scared of liability that the only way we know how to solve our problems is to throw massive amounts of cash at them. It takes time for the fear factor to grow great enough to switch gears and let a little common sense prevail. Reverence of the dollar bill has a price tag and we are paying it now. Half this country can only look from a distance at our present health care system because they cant afford it. A lot of these people come from what use to be the middle class in America.The only way this is going to change is to stop blindly paying for every public service insurance cost from congress on down the line. As long as corporate America is sucking in these tax dollars and prices keep going up nothing will change. Sorry Doc its not President Trump or China thats killing us off its our own greed.

  10. Marie,
    You are certainly “entitled”,,,
    To your opinion of any news source.
    As we all are.
    It is not Rocket Science Level to see Partisan Spin everywhere.

    But I noticed that “even you” couldn’t bring yourself to recommend CNN, MSNBC, or ANY Mainstream Media that’s spinning the Liberal Narrative.
    These guys are constantly quietly printing corrections and retractions for lying…
    But have been forced to cover Joe Bidens accuser of sexual harrassment, much differently than past events.
    Glaring Hypocrisy.
    Everyone knows it too.
    So they are no “better”.

    Fair is fair.
    We don’t want anyone to be MISLED.
    I mean,, you “do” want to be fair?
    Right?
    LOL.

  11. Private Planet – I missed the news reports of multiple casualties at the Jay mill explosion. The news I read described the shock that there were no injuries despite the size of the accident. If you could, please provide examples. I believe erroneous news reports should be called out. Claiming Fake News exists without concrete evidence of it is, in itself, misinformation.

  12. Dr. Bien
    Thank you for your insight. Why is it that some folks always attack the messenger rather than address the substance of the message? I could better understand their impetus if you were a man who mocked the handicapped, bragged about committing adultery and grabbing young women’s privates, lied incessantly, cashed in on his office, took children from their parents and locked them in cages, treated Gold Star Parents like dirt, fired Armed Forces Heroes, bragged about himself constantly, called Nazis and racists good people, is building a wall paid for by Mexico…oh wait… he never said that right? Is that the wall that fell over in the wind? Where tunnels are also being built? Nah, must be fake news. Oh, let’s see what else you may you have done Dr. Bien to deserve such rabid persecution. Perhaps you were the guy in charge who called the Coronavirus a “Hoax” and did nothing to protect the nation for two months as top scientists around the world were warning you of the deadly pandemic fomenting around the world and heading our way. It’s amazing to me that a “Hoax” could kill so many people. Although all these facts have been broadcast by Media around the world for three years I’m sure some folks would insist it’s all “FAKE NEWS”. And rather than employ critical thinking, a tool some folks fail to employ, the knee-jerk reaction is to point their finger at you.
    But I don’t believe you were the offender in this case Dr.Bien. I don’t think you’re that kind of guy. So I can’t help but wonder why some folks would get so offended by one man’s opinion that they feel compelled to attack him personally rather than engage on a more humane and intellectual level.
    Can anyone out there help me to understand this phenomenon?

  13. Aside from the statistics Alexander provided, which indicate Dr. Bien is incorrect, what has he stated in his letter that is NOT true? Wonder when people are going to face FACTS instead of getting information from various forms of fake news? Enjoy the fantasy world.

  14. It has gotten so convenient to blame everything on the current President along with the past ones depending on the flavor. If someone doesn’t like the words they can start name calling or say things like don’t blame the messenger. When all the dust settles the ones standing on top will be the lawyers and of course the politicians, pick a flavor.

  15. I wholeheartedly agree with 6th gen Mainer! I find that those here who are attacking the messenger tend to be be quite vocal in Attempting to defend the indefensible Blatherer-in-Chief and his daily divisive deceptive rah-rah rallies at the White House.

  16. To 6th Gen Mainer:

    See the Snopes article about the “hoax”. The 1A protects your right to perpetuate debunked stories, but it also protects everyone else’s right to criticize you for poor judgment.

    I assume that Steve Bien is an adult and that no one put a gun to his head and forced him to write that letter and submit it for publication. He has written many letters over the years and this probably won’t be the last. Although one can always hope. The 1A also protects his right to write, but it does not protect him from criticism. If he and you don’t like that, go play somewhere else.

    In late January, the President cut off travel from China to the US. For that act, most of the left, which includes most of the media, immediately called him a racist and a xenophobe – among some less polite terms – and, within days, the W.H.O., a wholly owned subsidiary of the C.C.P., proclaimed that travel restrictions were not necessary. A day or two later at the S.O.T.U., Trump warned about the virus. But Nancy ripped up the speech, so it stopped existing.

    When the China virus later began to ramp up here, the same left and media started to rewrite history and proclaim their righteous indignation that Trump didn’t act soon enough.

    You asked for help. There it is, humane and intellectual. If you think it’s crickets, call your audiologist.

  17. All can choose their sources of information, but I regularly use PBS and NPR as mine. They tend to be in-depth, and non-hysterical. Of course, even these entities receive funding from corporations and foundations that could seek to influence reporting. But these contributors are regularly disclosed on air.

  18. PBS and NPR.
    Yes they create an “atmosphere” for sure.
    If that floats your boat,,cool.
    Angus King is PBS ilk,,, So No Thanks.
    I honestly don’t see them as “centered” .
    Here’s my problem,, NONE of the major “news” organizations are anymore ,(yes, that includes Fox,CNN,ETC).
    Sad but True.

    We all naturally lean towards the sources that back up our “feelings”.
    Armed with our “feelings” confirmed, we battle.
    And the “NewsMedia” stays in business.

    “MEET THE NEW BOSS,, SAME AS THE OLD BOSS”

    MAGA.

  19. Marie E. Look up the sanctions that our President has imposed on Russia then go back and rethink if the current administration is actually a puppet for Putin. Then go to YouTube and look up videos of Putin. I recently watched one where he didn’t have a very high level of liking for our President.

  20. 6th gen Mainer, Cashed in on his office, no evidence was found. Mocked the disabled, not really, Trump is always doing goofy hand gestures when he speaks. Oddly though you didn’t mention CNN reporter Daniella Diaz who mocked Mich McConnell for getting assistance from the President to climb the stairs to the whitehouse in 2017, McConnell is a survivor of childhood polio who has trouble with his legs when negotiating stairs. Hillary called Trump supporters a “basket full of deplorables” That’s some 64 million people some of whom are minorities, veterans, and disabled people. They must get a pass from you because they aren’t members of a party you don’t like, right? And what Trump said to Billy Bush is just plain stupid and it is entirely unproven that Trump has ever engaged in any of those activities he mentioned. Separating children from their parents, that policy was passed by congress and enacted by Fmr. Pres Bill Clinton in 1994-95, So not Trump’s doing, congress could repeal the policy anytime it chooses to. but they won’t because to date, it has reunited more than 2500 children with their actual parents and lead to the arrest and prosecution of kidnappers, pedophiles and sex traffickers, or maybe you prefer that they remain in the holding areas with their victims and then turned loose on the streets of America? Fired a war hero? The Obama administration forced the resignation and eventual prosecution of 4 star general and CIA director David Petraeus. Col. Alexander Vindman’s birth name… Aleksandr Semyonovich Vindman, he’s Ukrainan by birth, and Trump didn’t fire him, his commanding officer had him reassigned to a better job with better pay and benefits. His twin brother was also reassigned.

  21. Private: looking back at npr I see coverage from that day reporting no injuries. Again, it seems like you are reporting fake news that never existed. Please correct me if I’m wrong and I’ll apologize sincerely

  22. To Hrtls
    in reference to most of MAGA supporter’s sentiments expressed on this page, I could easily and thoughtlessly Parrott their ‘FAKE NEWS” assertions. But I find that term has become too much of a pat response without any consideration of how truly dangerous it can be. That is not a term that we often heard until Trump appeared on the national political scene. Now, without a moment consideration to the actual truth, it is hurled as some kind of invective toward any expressed challenge to Trump’s lies. And he does lie and you all know he does. But for reasons of your own, you choose to accept those lies as truth. It didn’t use to be that way. Research suggests that the undying loyalty he evokes is based on an individual’s need for an authority figure to tell them what to do, think and say. Carried further we could end up like the citizens North Korea. I’ve always assumed Mainers were stronger and more thoughtful and independent to fall for that.

  23. To Hrtlss
    “Mocked the disabled, not really, Trump is always doing goofy hand gestures when he speaks.” Are you kidding me? We all saw it numerous times. HE PUBLICLY MOCKED THE MAN. Your spin is vulgar. Now I understand who you are.

  24. Picking my poison.
    Same as you.

    The Media’s accountability has “evolved” to rival that of the Weatherman, or Weatherwoman or Weatherwhatever.
    If they’re wrong, we all just accept it and make plans based on the next forecast…
    From our Favorite Channel.

    There’s something for everyone!!
    Isn’t it wonderful.

    Hey,, don’t look at the sky,,
    “they” say it is falling !!!
    (why would they lie?,,right.).

    Hey, it’s not easy being right.

  25. HB and the rest, many of you people are so completely blind to the truth it nearly inspires me. Why would you make excuses for trump? I mean, really? Do you really NOT see what he is? I mean, honestly, don’t you see him for what he is and what he has done? Either you watch Fox ‘News’ 24/7 or you read Alex Jones and listen to Rush Limbaugh. It boggles my mind so much that my brain rattles – how can so many of you just be BLIND to the truth? Seriously, HB, you take one example, in hundreds, and do your usual oblique rant. Trump did insult a disabled person, plain and simple. He treated a dead soldier’s wife like shit. And on and on. And now he claims no responsibility for pretty much anything. Whenever a reporter calls him on a lie or obvious error what does he do? He insults that person. When has this guy ever done anything that didn’t benefit his bank account? Yep, the Marshall Plan guaranteed most of Europe free health care (or affordable), free or low-cost university, and so on. The US got zip and now trump is trying to take even that away. Yes, ‘we will create better health care that is low cost and the best health care anywhere’. Let me know when that happens, ok? As I stated above, aside from the statement about Russia made by Dr. Bien, his other information is accurate and true. But, apparently, as the famous saying goes: “you can’t handle the truth”. Maine used to be known for hard work and speaking the truth. Where are those people now? Can’t be you guys.

  26. Ozerki, I could sit and type the faults of every single elected official or candidate ever, and there are going to be people who like those people and others who hate them. That is just the nature of partisan politics. For example Ohio governor Jim Rhodes, Republican served four 4 year terms as governor of Ohio, in 1970 he called up the Ohio National Guard to help disperse a group of protesters and who then shot a bunch of students at Kent State. Many people despised Rhodes for his decision in 1970, but he was reelected governor in 1974 and 1978, his first two terms being in 1962 and 1966.
    FDR, Extended the depression by 8 years, did many things without the approval of congress, was elected to multiple terms which gave rise to the 22nd amendment in 1947. Whose approval rating was 46 in 1938 and rose to 83 in 1942.
    JFK, major womanizer, did very little for the country overall, gave jobs to his family members, he pissed off our allies by wanting to talk to the USSR and make them a trade partner. Gave us our first non- recession deficit.
    Bernie Sanders, Bolshevik shares philosophy with Karl Marx, hates people richer than him, he used to tout about wanting to tax millionaires and billionaires and how bad capitalism is, until capitalism made him a millionaire with 3 houses. He also wants people who earn $29,000 a year to pay more taxes, has only had 7 bills pass, 2 of which were for naming post offices.

    Does Trump talk a lot, yes he does, does that make him unlikable, only if you’re petty enough to think the first amendment doesn’t apply to everybody.

    List one country with better health care than America has, there is a reason why people come from all over the world to get procedures done in the US.

    The supposed trashing of a goldstar mother has been debunked multiple times even by Snopes and CNN, the call was supposedly overheard by Florida rep. Frederica Wilson, a marked racist and who had no business sticking her nose in where it shouldn’t have been.

    I am also surprised the Bulldog posted your comment with an expletive in it.

  27. Dr Bien, 6th Generation Mainer, I stand and applaud you!

    How anyone can defend Trump I just can’t understand.. Hrtless Bstd, hand gestures? NO, No, No he definitely made fun of that man and if you didn’t see it that way you might want to check your vision and hearing..

  28. Ozerki,
    Honestly what boggles my mind is the assumptions you make about anyone who voted for or is planning on voting for the current president.
    Your assumptions in my case are incorrect.
    But who cares,,right?

    Trumps haters seem to be caught up in only hating trump at the expense of everything else.
    It does seem deranged actually.

  29. Donna, There are videos of him doing that weird mocking thing going back to 2015 all the way up to 2017 when he is mocking Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Jim Acosta, Chris Cuomo and Hillary Clinton. It is true he mocked a reporter as he has done countless times before, but he didn’t mock him because he was disabled, he mocked him because he was a reporter who accused Trump of saying something but couldn’t remember when Trump supposedly said what Serge Kovaleski(the reporter) accused him of saying. Maybe this will ring a bell, Obama on the Tonight Show, Jay Leno asks Obama about his bowling game, Obama responds, “It’s like, it was like the Special Olympics or something.” But you know since Orange Man bad, Trump mocking an unprepared reporter who happens to be disabled is a horrible thing. But like I said in the previous post, people who aren’t a member of a party you hate, get a pass when it comes to mocking people.

  30. The other Options,
    I definitely have my issues with “every” politician.
    Since I disenrolled in the Rep party a few years ago, I have found the other offerings less than an improvement.
    The Clintons and Bidens,,,, as if they aren’t as corrupt as as anyone.
    Where’s the outrage?
    Can’t have it both ways.
    Maybe our Hero will step,,,oh wait, the DNC won’t allow it.
    Wer can hope.

  31. Thanks for confirming what I assumed – just disappointed that there weren’t more remarks. And thanks for not addressing anything directly ….. just the same old ‘haters will hate’. A sequestered and successful experiment where I conclude that most of you are NOT real Mainers. Have a good one.

  32. Regarding initial reports from the Jay mill explosion, I remember the first reports were of multiple injuries. I found an article from Newsweek, dated April 15th, entitled “EXPLOSION AT ANDROSCOGGIN PAPER MILL IN JAY, MAINE: COMPANY SAYS EMPLOYEES ACCOUNTED FOR AFTER INJURIES INITIALLY REPORTED” updated that there were no injuries. But the first report was “An explosion at the Androscoggin Mill in Jay, Maine, on Wednesday, left multiple people injured, according to Maine Department of Public Safety spokesman Steve McCausland. McCausland confirmed to WMTW that there were injuries, but said the exact number or the seriousness was not immediately known. A Lifeflight helicopter, as well as the Main State Police and the State Fire Marshall’s Office, have been sent to the scene. Newsweek reached out to McCausland but did not receive a response in time for publication.”

    It is really distasteful to argue about whether news organizations reported injuries from that terrible explosion, but there you have it.

    Shall we now discuss Stephen King, darling of the liberals, who JOKED about the explosion?? He who flounced off social media (alas, it didn’t last nearly long enough) after the last election.

  33. Hrtlss Bstrd You continue to make it sound okay to make fun of people… WELL, If you’d ever had a child with disabilities you might feel differently! Trump is a bottom feeder as far as I’m concerned. Everything he says are lies. No need to comment because I don’t care what you think.. Bless your heart and have a lovely day :)

  34. Amazing.We complain about state rights until we want something then big brother is suppose to solve all our problems. Get big government out of our business until there is a common need then one man is suppose to wave his magic wand and order private enterprise to totally change their manufacturing process at their own cost,yesterday if you dont mind. We can whine all day about how something is said rather then contribute something that will solve the problem at hand. Thats why half our politicians get elected stay quiet and just stab us in the back, they dont want a lot of attention. Would you? We are going to have to get a lot more ducks in a row if we want to change whats f—ed up in this country.

  35. Hysteria,
    “exaggerated or uncontrollable emotion or excitement, especially among a group of people.”

    If blind haters cant deal with the fact that it is THEM driving fair minded people away, then guess what?
    They will have another Hillary meltdown.

    The loudmouthed, closeminded howlers lashing out at everything that even slightly disagrees with them,, is trumps greatest re election weapon.
    But they just get more hysterical…
    And more people join the deplorables.

    I guess I can understand the frustration.
    Hillary alienated half the country because she thought her machine was invincible.
    Now joe Biden is the offer??

    I truly wish you guys could calm down and offer a real solution instead of standing on a platform of hate.
    It’s just plain unattractive.

  36. I understand the frustrations that have led so many people to get on the Trump train. We are not the nation of our predecessors, no question. Trump tapped into this frustration, promising to “drain the swamp” and “Make America Great Again.” Substitute the word “Germany” for ‘America” and you have two expressions that came directly from Nazi Germany. So, Trump drained the swamp, alright.He filled it with so many incompetents that one-by-one, he himself has fired almost all of them. The few who have been there since ‘day one” are his family members, Ivanka, DJTJ, and Jared. The sad thing is that Trump has done nothing to return our nation to the its post WW2 glory, nor has he done anything to bring people together, another of his empty campaign promises. His only claim to fame WAS the strong economy inherited from Obama. If anything is FAKE, it ain’t the “lame-stream media”, it’s the Fake President. I feel truly sorry for the incredible mess Joe Biden will inherit in January. God help us…

  37. Donna, It is perfectly ok to make fun of people, fans of America’ s Funniest Home Videos have been making fun of people for 20 years, prior to that it was Candid Camera and Tv’s Bloopers and Practical Jokes. Some of the most successful and popular channels on YouTube are the ones that show the most people failing. You will be hard pressed to find anybody sympathetic towards the dad whose 5 year old son hit him in the junk with a baseball. Mocking people is no different.

    Good to know Ozerki thinks people who don’t share the same political views as him are not Americans, and that hate is wrong, unless he’s the one doing the hating that is. Ozerki reminds me of Mike Bloomberg, As mayor of New York City, he made it so nobody could donate food to homeless shelters because the city couldn’t monitor the fat, salt, sugar and fiber content of the food in order to keep people eating healthy, a half hour after making the proclamation, he went and ordered some street food, loaded hot dogs and french fries, so much for eating healthy, like he wanted everybody else to. Some people’s hypocrisy is boundless.

  38. I am frustrated with Trumps failings.
    He failed to put Hillary in jail where she belongs.
    He failed to drain the swamp. Pelosi is still dragging us down.
    He failed to complete the wall.
    He failed to stop the human baby killings.
    He failed to unmask Joe Bidens corruption and crimes.
    He has failed in these, so far…
    But he’s made a very big dent in these problems.
    Four more years oughta do it!!

  39. To HB, private and the rest of Herr Trump’s supporters,
    you boys are right, I admit it. I am a hater! I can honestly say that I hate Trump. I know you boys don’t care why and I don’t expect you to. That fact alone, your lack of curiosity, your disinterest in what compels a fellow citizen to admit to feeling such a strong negative emotion pretty much seals the deal. The evidence is there for those who truly are curious, I need not make a list. Essentially a waste of time, right boys?

    Curiosity; a strong desire to know or learn something.

  40. 6th Gen Me
    April 22, 2020 • 2:07 pm
    To HB, private and the rest of Herr Trump’s supporters,
    you boys are right, I admit it. I am a hater! I can honestly say that I hate Trump. I know you boys don’t care why and I don’t expect you to. That fact alone, your lack of curiosity, your disinterest in what compels a fellow citizen to admit to feeling such a strong negative emotion pretty much seals the deal. The evidence is there for those who truly are curious, I need not make a list. Essentially a waste of time, right boys?

    Curiosity; a strong desire to know or learn something

    Remember when a whole lot of people felt similar about Obama, and despite all the evidence why- You didn’t CARE.

    Pots meet kettles, kettles meet pots…

  41. I apologize for deliberately provoking with my smartbutty comment. I got caught up and honestly, I am sorry.
    The reason I am sorry is because, behavior like mine solves absolutely nothing other than widen the divide.

    We will always disagree, often it is prolonged and intense.
    This is good and healthy until hate enters the picture.
    After hate, nothing good for any of us (especially the hater).
    Haters get preyed upon and used by corrupt political machines and partisan media. And ultimately destroyed.
    Sound about right folks?

    My beliefs are strong and arrived at as honestly as I am able.
    As I’m sure most are.
    One of mine is to love my neighbor.
    I promise I’m trying Brother.
    No saint here,,,,

  42. Pure
    you missed my point entirely. But that’s ok. Keep trying, or maybe ask your kids if they would want Trump to be their father. Or you for that matter.

  43. @Hrtlss, it’s only okay to make fun of white people–more specifically, rednecks, blondes, people with fake tans and people who live in trailer parks. Everyone else is off limits, okay?

  44. 6th Gen,
    Sounds like your hatred goes way beyond trump based on your nastiness. Now we’ve gone into attacking peoples families??
    If you bought into the whole “basket full of deplorables” ploy you got hoodwinked by an arrogant hypocrite who got exactly what she deserved when her invincible machine derailed on election night. .
    “When they go low, we go high” remember that?
    Well Hillary didn’t mean it , her actions were the opposite.
    Now, we’re attacking each others families.
    You said “you don’t care” what others think.
    You can do better than that.

    I’m no Trump lover believe me but offer something better than the same old clinton/biden ROT for goodness sakes.
    The options that I could live with all got ousted by the damn DNC again.
    Here we have Joe Biden now. Dammit.
    So be it…

    I wish we could all swap “news” sources for a month,,
    Then sit down and talk….

    I’m not your enemy.
    Hate has to go.

  45. 6th Gen Me
    April 22, 2020 • 8:23 pm
    Pure
    you missed my point entirely. But that’s ok. Keep trying, or maybe ask your kids if they would want Trump to be their father. Or you for that matter.

    Didn’t miss it at all and I think your comment reveals just how close to the mark I am.

    Your comment shows your class, maybe worries about your own kids would help you become a better human.

  46. Pfft
    I take your opinions from whence they come. Your intentional ignorance bores me. I do enjoy watching your leader flounder in his narcissistic cesspool. Good luck with your inept attempts to mask the truth. SeeYa!

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