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Letter to the editor: Trumped again

Sometimes a comment doesn’t exactly qualify as a letter to the editor. And I admit that this is more a comment than a logical argument.

However, being a Vietnam War vet I immediately took offense during his campaign when Donald Trump made the statement the he didn’t consider John McCain a war hero; stating that he preferred people who weren’t captured. This from a man who later claimed military experience because he spent part of his high school years in a posh military academy.

Last week, Trump hung up on the Australian Prime Minister when discussing Iranian refugees. Later, he tweeted sarcasm about the phone call. He is systematically alienating many of our strongest allies.

Trump doesn’t know that nearly 500 Aussies lost their lives while fighting alongside U.S. troops in Vietnam. He had a boo boo on his foot and didn’t go.

Wm Gilliland

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  1. You hit the nail squarely, William. Add to that his disrespect of the immigrant parents of an Army officer who died protecting his troops in Iraq, and dismissing veterans with PTSD as people who "couldn't take it".
    Somehow, a self-absorbed egomaniac has become president of our nation. We'll have four years to regret it, and hopefully we'll be checking our history books and learning what to avoid next time. He's dangerous. One man's opinion.

  2. Daniel..You said "somehow" we have A bad president.

    Here is "how" it happened...
    "Hillary Clinton" is the reason.

    Maybe the Dems will offer us a "decent" choice next time?
    They all marched down that crooked road and lost to a .....Well you know what.

    But Hillary was viewed as "even worse"..
    And I agree.

    So that's how..
    Whatcha going to do about that?

  3. I agree with the above comments. Hopefully there will be better choices on the ballot in four years.
    Also, hopefully we all make it through the next four years. I'm sure that it is not going to be a pleasant four years. But I don't think that a lot of people paid much attention to Trump's campaigning or else couldn't read between the lines and swallowed hook, line and sinker everything that he tried to shove down our throats.
    Obviously he didn't know what he was talking about and I don't believe that he had ever read the U. S. Constitution!!!!!

  4. Not that I'm very impressed with Donald Trump but I'm not too impressed with ANY of the news media either.
    I'm not sure which is worse.. The media.. Donald... Or Hillary.

    That story about the "rift" with the Australian prime Minister over refugees...I thought it was discovered that the news story was inaccurate...

    Just like the one about the missing MLK Bus. It was reported that Trump and good cronies moved it or set it on fire or something heinous... When in fact it was never moved at all.

    On and on and on it goes..

    Sad that the media had become so partisan...

    Don't be fooled folks.
    Don't run around like chicken little reacting to the media.
    Don't be "That Guy".
    You have a brain...Use it.

  5. Thanks for your comments, Bill. I, too, am a Viet Nam vet and deeply resented Trump's insult of McCain, his dismissal of combat related stress disorders, and of the shallow photo ops Trump has staged with American soldiers, using such occasions to boast of his election.

    His role as Commander in Chief of our armed forces deeply alarms me, not the least because of his quick temper, his unpredictability in dealing with foreign leaders, his apparent approval of Putin, and his lack of cooperation with the intelligence agencies that do so much to keep a commander informed.

  6. "Somehow, a self-absorbed egomaniac has become president of our nation."

    "...a lot of people...couldn't read between the lines and swallowed hook, line and sinker everything that he tried to shove down our throats."

    IMO, the low-information voters, the misogynists, the good ol' boys really "get the credit" for this ridiculous person who now sits in the White House.

  7. The assault on the press increases as the White House gang – among them Sean Spicer, Kellyanne Conway, and President Trump himself – continue to systematically undermine confidence in the nation’s journalists. It’s clear such attacks are largely self-serving – if the press doesn’t report favorably on what the administration is doing, they’re called “unfair,” “biased” and “fake.” These assaults are alarming, both in the extremity of their rhetoric and the implied threat in their tone.

    While it’s true the media occasionally makes mistakes, it’s by and large a self-correcting institution and we depend upon it to get the news and, ultimately, the truth. To so blatantly manipulate, denigrate and threaten our free press, as this administration is doing (and as Trump did throughout his campaign) is dangerous in the extreme. And to buy into it, as so many of his supporters are doing, suggests Trump’s cynical and calculated manipulation of public opinion is working.

    As Thomas Jefferson wrote: "Our liberty cannot be guarded but by the freedom of the press, nor that be limited without danger of losing it."

  8. Marie.... feel free to keep on with your opinions.... .. but calling people that did not vote for Ms. Clinton 'low-information voters, misogynists and good old boys' isn't what elected ' a self absorbed egomaniac' and 'the ridiculous person' that sits in the White House.... There were other reasons... I do not fit in any of the ones that you described...

  9. I was never a Trump supporter, but I hate lies and divisiveness just for the sake of doing it. The following was debunked by PM Turnbull and Australian media outlets yet it persists::::

    "Last week, Trump hung up on the Australian Prime Minister when discussing Iranian refugees. Later, he tweeted sarcasm about the phone call. He is systematically alienating many of our strongest allies."

    This is why President Trump doesn't trust the media, much like the alleged tweet from Gen. Flynn stating "Scape Goat" and then listening to Nancy Pelosi describe a goat and some such thing... However the tweet was a fake... And was not covered like the original statement. Did you hear that Nancy Pelosi thinks President Bush is still in the White House? Maybe not if you only follow liberal media.

    Calling people bigots, racists and sexist does not make it true. Maybe some are and maybe not, but a lie is a lie... I want some truth, some real reporting and some answers! I can handle it!!

  10. Well, then, not you, Glen. What have you seen so far that makes you believe that your vote for Trump was justified?

  11. Marie.... I am not impressed with Trump... I say it was a vote against her...I was not impressed with her past.... and that had nothing to do with her sex.. I have friends that voted for her just because 'it is time for a woman'.... I say not that woman..

  12. @glen: Thank you for the forthright comment. We disagree on this.

  13. It just amazes me how "Close minded" so many of you are about our new Pres. Trump. GIVE THE MAN A CHANCE! He is one of the very few in Washington who refused to be "politically correct" and he says and tells it like it is. Those people are sent there (supposedly) to represent the American people ... not make a permanent career for themselves. And that is not what they are doing. You will be hard pressed to find one politician who has not become much "wealthier" after going to Washington ... and how are they doing it???

    Pres. Trump does not "owe" anyone any favors and he is trying to "Make America Great" again! No matter what he does, he certainly is not going to make any bigger mess than Obama did.

    AND I find it interesting that my comments from a few days ago have been removed from this site! WHY?
    Just because I gave a difference of opinion and stated that those who were very unhappy when Obama
    was elected did not go around crying, having tantrums, creating riots and damaging personal property!!
    REALLY people, wake up and act as mature adults. America has spoken and are sick of politics as usual and that is why we elected PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP! God bless him and America!

  14. MAME I agree..Seems like Marie E gets all the press she wants on here.. playing every "card" in the liberal deck. The gender card is interesting.... She refers to the "Good Ol' Boys"... Ok fair nuf'.

    But the BD hasn't posted my question about the Good Ol' Girls Club..?

    Nancy Pelosi
    Donna Brazille
    Loretta Lynch
    Donna Wasserman Schultz

    These "Ladies"..Behavior is reprehensible at best. A bunch of proven Liars.. Proven Cheaters...The Democratic Establishment.
    Remember them?

    But I guess it's out of play to bring this up.

    There is no difference between a mysoginist and a feminist..Except their gender. They both just hate.

    Talk about "not qualified"....

  15. Did all his supporters like today's "self-pity party" that Trump called a "press conference"? But glad all this stuff is'll be interesting watching him deny everything that will later be revealed as lies.

  16. Yes Marie E,,,It will be interesting to watch Trump deny everything that will later be revealed as lies,,,
    I agree..

    Just like it was when Hillary and the Gaggle of Gals,,,Lied,,Stole and Cheated.
    Lied or took the 5th,,Dishonesty Personified.
    Oh and she had the help of some Democratic Good Ol Boys also. (didn't work though).
    But you had no problem with any of that..apparently.

    Any "reasonably honest" person has a problem with both.

    The good news is,,,the number of people DEMANDING a better answer is increasing dramatically.
    But , not you.
    Your version of reality and trumps version cancel each other out.

    Both are doomed.

  17. @SoundsFamiIiar: I don't feel "doomed", and I'm definitely "reasonably honest".

    Conclusion: You don't know me or for whom I voted, in spite of your assertions to the contrary.

    @Good Ol' Girls: There's no difference?
    misogynist: a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women. Definitely hateful.

    feminism: 1: the belief that women and men should have equal rights and opportunities. 2: organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests. Count me in!

    And while we're at it, familiarize yourself with this definition: "good ol' boy
    "Pejoratively, the phrase can often suggest a man (or person) with an anti-intellectual bias or some other intolerant viewpoint.
    The phrase also can refer negatively to someone who engages in cronyism among men who have known each other for a long period of time. Collectively, these people are referred to by the slang term, 'good ol' boy network'..."

  18. are in and counted.
    Its called "special" interest. It is narrow , naive and devisive.
    The condescention towards everyone that's very special.
    And the reason honest thinking people are running from the Democratic Party.
    It is ruined dear.

    The other party isn't much better...but The Dems are so ridiculous they make them successful.

    I'll go with the growing crowd who judges character by actions...alone.
    Regardless of gender ,color or any other "special" qualification.
    Count me in with that.
    We're growing ..thanks to partisan shillery...

    Oh, Your copy and pasted definitions are incomplete selective blips.
    If reality were only "that" simple.
    C''re getting snookered...
    But that's what they do.

  19. "You don't know me or for whom I voted......."

    1. Somebody probably does know you

    2. And even someone did wood, do they know how you voted?

  20. I'm standing with Marie. The Hillary hate is pure misogyny and died in the wool "in a man it's a woman it get's called b___h."

    The majority USA vote was for Hillary.

  21. Marie,,in Disneyland.

    "THIS" definition of feminism is absolutely fine. Count me in on "THIS" also...

    (From Marie) feminism: 1: the belief that women and men should have equal rights and opportunities. 2: organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests. Count me in!

    BUT,,,,,this does NOT describe the behavior of the haters hiding behind this label TODAY..
    OUT OF DATE DESCRIPTION..(imagine that).
    The founders of feminism would be ashamed of the new haters.

    And I Love This One from Marie,,
    (From Marie) And while we're at it, familiarize yourself with this definition: "good ol' boy
    "Pejoratively, the phrase can often suggest a man (or person) with an anti-intellectual bias or some other intolerant viewpoint.
    The phrase also can refer negatively to someone who engages in cronyism among men who have known each other for a long period of time. Collectively, these people are referred to by the slang term, 'good ol' boy network'..."

    Yup it's wrong for men to act this way. Agreed.
    If you look up Good Ol' Girl............IT'S NOT THERE!!! LOL.
    But you are definitely working on it....
    and it will say "EXACTLY THE SAME THING".

    Well,, maybe not in the dictionary Marie chooses......

    Have Fun Next Election...
    Moving On.

  22. A fight between grasshoppers is a joy to the crow. ~African Proverb

  23. Wah wah wah !!!! I don't remember this many people on the right crying for the last eight years!!!! How about everyone grows up and let President Trump do his JOB !!!!! The hypocrisy of the left is astounding but not surprising!!!

  24. REALITY, not Disneyland:

    If you voted for Trump, you got conned.

    con: persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception..

    Look it up any dictionary.

  25. The Left ran pretty much on "America was NEVER great"; that theme abounded for 8 years, we were lectured over and over about how rotten we are, and our nation was "fundamentally transformed" because the Left dislikes it so much. They've made that MORE than clear.

    Now the Left is surprised when America rejects them and all they stand for.

    Marie E.'s comment above is a great example of how this has worked...we've been abused, targeted, called terrorists, even had the machinery of government used against us (IRS, DHS, DOJ)...we're bigots, homophobes, xenophobes and more because we simply do not agree with every opinion they try to shove down our throats. Just like a banana republic.

    Well, the false mask of Leftist tolerance is OFF, kids. We know who is intolerant and bigoted, who can't handle the results of an election, who riots over disappointment, who makes death threats to Electors and people who have a different ideology than them. They're burning books and blocking free speech now. America is SICK of this, and hopefully will remain eyes-open about the division and discord that the Left has sown, so successfully, for decades now. They pushed it too far, that was a real mistake. They're also doing it in Congress now, playing 'block 'em' and whining about rules that THEY PUT IN PLACE.

    Thanks for the name-calling, every time they do this it clarifies exactly why they lost.

    BTW, Blacks for Trump 2020 has a nice site you might want to look up, as does Women for Trump. And the "good ol' boys" were DEMOCRATS, Marie...

  26. Hard to fathom the "amnesia" regarding 2008 & 2012 elections.

    "... perceptions do not reflect what actually followed the election of our country’s first black president, much less the difference between why people are protesting Donald J. Trump’s presidency as compared to Barack Obama’s presidency.

    Obama’s election in 2008 was preceded and followed by violent attacks and property destruction targeted against minorities."

    "Obama’s presidency was marked by effigies of our first black president hanging from nooses across the country, for example in Kentucky, Washington State, and Maine...

    "Ultimately, demonstrators are not protesting Trump because he is Republican. They aren’t protesting him because he is a white male. These protests are because of the bigotry his campaign has emboldened and the fear of discrimination his presidency has the capacity to perpetuate."

  27. I'm sorry that you and those in your party amplify political DISCONTENT right up into perceived (yet not correct) racism and terror. Trump has come out in support of minority communities, and LGBT - yet the 'fear' goes on? That, ma'am, is ginned up by YOUR party, as I stated the highest levels, they are fabricating division that does not exist.

    We have Trump 'being shot in effigy', with thousands of open calls for his assassination, and riots based on the fear that someone may speak what you do not want to hear...somehow that is justified, where Obama in a noose is just so terrible? Don't you recall Bush in a noose as well? Effigies of US troops hanging?? THAT is equality - if it's ok for the white guy, it's ok for the half black one as well! Where you can point out a few 10s of these examples, I can go get you 100's, if not THOUSANDS. What a double standard the Left hides behind!!! Acting like lunatics and then hiding behind the skirts of some imagined moral superiority, ha ha ha!!

    If I were you, I'd take a SERIOUS look at who is actually acting "fascist" burning and riots aren't happening under the Republican aegis, and they didn't to ANY meaningful extent when Obama was in. Sure, there are white supremacists, always have been - but they are fairly universally shunned, and won't be having a meeting in the White House, as so many disruptive and antisocial elements did under Obama. Black supremacists are applauded, protected and funded by the Left...always siding with the radicals.

    Your media tells you something, and off you go, with nothing to support it (great ex: "Bannon is a white supremacist" - really? Got proof?? Nope.). Here you are now...I'm pretty sure you are white, speaking right up for minorities!! They need your help, right? To me, THAT is pretty racist...

    Again...."america was never great"...that's what you've got. Spread it far and wide, maybe it'll stick somewhere and gain you an election one day. I hope not - I'd rather see a productive and fairly happy nation that can get over its disagreements like human beings rather than torch what aggravates it. Splitting up society into grievance groups does nothing for stability, you see...why don't you join in, help make America great again?

    I'd post my real name, but I'm afraid my place of employment might be boycotted and my family harmed due to political differences.

  28. Seneca said "We are more often frightened than hurt; and we suffer more from imagination than from reality."

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